Nina Burleigh
Oh, thank you so much, uh, John, and thank you, uh, Ambassador Volker and Dr. Ashford for your very interesting conversation. Um, I guess my question is something you have not addressed, either of you. Um, Transparency International has listed Ukraine as the second most corrupt country after Russia in Europe. Um, uh, last week, Robert Service, a, uh, Russia historian with the Hoover Institution in, uh, in Oxford, uh, wrote a piece or spoke with the Wall Street Journal and said, um, the war here, uh, has resul- is a result of what he called, “Shambolic mismanagement,” by the West of, uh, eh, diplomatically handling, uh, Russia. Specifically, he pointed to two events.
